WyvernChat vs SillyTavern: Why I’m Using WyvernChat More

WyvernChat vs SillyTavern on mobile

If you read my hiatus post, then you know that I’ve been a lot more busy than I’d like to be lately. As a result, I’ve been mostly sticking to RP on mobile. This isn’t a full WyvernChat vs SillyTavern breakdown, but it explains why I’ve been reaching for WyvernChat more lately. I’m a big SillyTavern guy. I first started on CrushOn, then SpicyChat, then Chub.ai, and then I started looking for a bit more control. That’s when I came across SillyTavern on a reddit post, which was expressing shock that people unironically use Chub.ai (I was one of them! Paying for that Mars subscription!) and not just using it as an easy place to get character cards. This shocked me! I didn’t even know what SillyTavern was, never heard of it.

Skip forward to today, and I still run an instance off a Pi 4 and use OpenRouter as my main way to get ahold of an LLM. I use Tailscale to connect to it from anywhere, and that’s perfectly fine. However, SillyTavern’s UI on mobile is painful (maybe it’s just me..) and I hated it. It’s a great open-source project with a lot of love behind it, and I could never hate it in that way. It just leaves a little bit desired. So I started looking into an alternative. That’s when I came across WyvernChat, and man; I just fell in love. The biggest thing for me was how little friction there was between opening the site and actually getting into a session.

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Back From Hiatus

The Curse of Juggling

Hey all,

I went on another hiatus. Life got to doing its thing, and I ended up having to juggle a couple of things at once. I picked up a second job, and did that for a while; plus some other life changes (baby!) have prevented me from being able to post as often or work on the projects that I have.

I’m happy to say that I’ve stabilized some, found better opportunities, and freed myself up some. I’ll be posting more regularly, and the weekly news will start back up again. I’ll be keeping you guys updated on the projects I’m working on once they’re a bit more ready, and I’m also planning on some sweeping changes for The Grimoire and Presetlab.

For anyone who reads my ramblings, finds something useful, or uses anything I made,

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Sillytavern Preset Comparison Tool: Introducing PresetLab

Screenshot of PresetLab interface showing scattered presets and controls.

Sillytavern Preset Comparison Tool: Introducing PresetLab

The Curse of Knowing Just Enough

SillyTavern presets. The lifeline. Unfortunately, there’s really no clean way to “do” a SillyTavern preset comparison. It’s made more difficult by the fact that you can’t really see output side-by-side, so you’d have to swap around and mess around just to see the output a preset can give you. On top of that, the good community presets are often discussed, but that leaves little spotlight for the other smaller presets the community worked hard on. Those get little to no discussion.

With no quick, braindead way to see the contents of a preset, no way to run the same prompt through two presets at once, no central list for presets, I decided to try something out. So I made PresetLab.

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SillyTavern Weekly: DeepLore v2.5, Natural Extended v0.9, GLM 5.2 Settles In — 6/16 – 6/22

SillyTavern weekly news for the week of June 16 to June 22, 2026. The model story this week is still GLM 5.2 *yawn* (kidding, I’m just salty from z.AI’s shift). Putting that to the side, the real story is the user-side tooling cluster: DeepLore v2.5, Natural Extended v0.9, Leonardo, Zebede, and a quiet but real character-card workflow shift. Megumin V8. GitHub quiet. Also, what model is Owl Alpha on OR?.. That’s not part of the news. That’s my personal question. Stealth models drive me nuts.

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GLM 5.2 Presets for SillyTavern

GLM 5.2 Presets for SillyTavern

On a day such as this, one could not have expected better news for the GLM faithful. GLM 5.2 just dropped on OpenRouter the second week of June, and the early community response has been strong. GLM 5.1 was already ranked #2 overall by the Freaky Frankenstein creator (per their tier list, output 9/10, censorship: zero), and 5.2 is just more of that on more headroom. The chain-of-thought architecture is the real story though. Give it a tiered preset and it processes each layer before it spits out a response, like a DM checking session notes. That combination is what makes GLM feel less like a model and more like a partner.

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DeepSeek V4 Flash Presets for SillyTavern

DeepSeek V4 Flash Presets for SillyTavern

DeepSeek V4 Flash had a rocky launch, and I am not going to sugarcoat that. Community reports cited POV confusion, stereotypical RP output, and weak prompt adherence. The big wrinkle is that V4 ships with built-in RP instructions that actively fight custom presets, which is why it needs special handling. The good news: V4 Flash is “surprisingly good” per the community as of June 2026, and DeepSeek has committed to ongoing roleplay-specific tuning based on community feedback. The 1M context window and permanent 75% price reduction make it one of the most accessible frontier models for marathon sessions. Use V3.2 when you need reliability, V4 Flash when you need 1M context or cost.

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DeepSeek V3.2 Presets for SillyTavern

DeepSeek V3.2 Presets for SillyTavern

I tried V3.2 again last month after bouncing off it earlier in the year, and I am not going to lie, it caught me off guard. “Apparently all this model needed was a quality preset. My goodness can it cook” is the vibe in the megathreads right now, and I’m inclined to agree. The community has it ranked #3 overall (per the Freaky Frankenstein tier list as of June 2026), the FF creator uses it interchangeably with GLM 5.1 depending on scene type, and the prose is vivid in a way the front-page OpenRouter rankings don’t really capture. The one real limitation is the 163K context window, which is lower than the 1M-token models, so very long sessions can fall off. That’s a tradeoff, not a dealbreaker.

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Claude Opus 4.6 Presets for SillyTavern

Claude Opus 4.6 Presets for SillyTavern

Look. I use Claude (sparingly). I have used it for a long time (sparingly!), and I am not going to sit here and pretend the bill doesn’t hurt. The prose is still the best in the business, the emotional range is something the other models can’t touch, and the way it handles character dynamics without you having to spell them out is a genuine superpower. The friction, beyond the price, is that Anthropic has been quietly adding new API-level safeguards to older Claude models, so things that worked last month may suddenly refuse. That part is annoying. It is what it is.

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Gemini 3.5 Flash Presets for SillyTavern

Gemini 3.5 Flash Presets for SillyTavern

Gemini 3.5 Flash presets are plentiful. If you’ve used Gemini 3.5 Flash for any length of time, you already know the deal. It’s fast, it’s cheap, and the prose is the best the Gemini line has produced to date. “Less ‘Geminisms'” is the consensus, and that tracks with what I’ve seen in long sessions. The main practical tip is to turn off streaming on AI Studio, otherwise the API-level filter will block your message sends mid-stream. On the censorship question, Flash is less restrictive than previous Gemini models for NSFW, but violence has some filter friction on AI Studio specifically. NanoGPT and OpenRouter tend to be cleaner. The 1M context window and Flash-tier pricing make it a strong value pick.

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SillyTavern Weekly: GLM 5.2, DeepSeek v4, Fable 5 — 6/8 – 6/15

SillyTavern weekly news. We’re going to ignore that there was no SillyTavern weekly news for the entire month of May. Or any post, really (Did I say I was sorry?)

The SillyTavern weekly news of June 8 to 15, 2026 was a model release week, which is also the only kind of week that matters around here. *GLM 5.2* finally hit OpenRouter, a few days late but no less hyped for the wait. *DeepSeek v4* turned out to be, against all odds, actually good. *Fable 5* launched and immediately started a culture war. Anthropic put new safeguards on old models in the kind of move that makes you check the date twice. And underneath it all, the SillyTavern GitHub ship sat quiet for the sixth week running.

Let’s get into it.

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